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Pesawat MH17 Terhempas V3 : Ketua pemberontak sudah hubungi Malaysia #1
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famri7 posted on 21-7-2014 06:39 AM
Kan!..xder dah ummah yang mengclaim kawan i ckp la..nenek sedara bekas pilot i cakap la..pastu i t ...
Tu la pasal
dh vol.3 tred mh17 ni aku tertunggu2 gak nk dgr ada ke ummah porem ni nak mengaku ada saudara, pak menakan, sepupu, nenek sedara, tok wan duk ukraine/russian sana tu
Nmpk nya takdeeee |
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Ramai je doktor2 malaysia dr ukraine nun csmu crimea..takde yg nk mencemar duli kaa bergosip sini.. |
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ini memang kerja Ukrain dan sekutunya....naik menyampah aku...tak habis habis nak kuasa dunia...
org lain yg jadi mangsa...lain kali tembak lah kapal terbang syarikat negara sendiri....
agak agak ada kaitan tak dgn pesawat MH370...kalau kapal tu tak terhempas dan masi boleh digunakan..??  Last edited by Simunggu on 21-7-2014 07:30 AM
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Santeira posted on 21-7-2014 07:20 AM 
memang Russia menyokong puak pemisah, membekalkan senjata kan kepakaran...tapi tak semestinya mereka yg menembak pesawat awam...sapa sapa boleh beli senjata BUK russia... |
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Hari tu pm Australia lantang kritik Russia. Lepas mereka berdua bercakap di telefon, abbot mcm tone down sikit. Putin sound abbot kot
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batmana posted on 21-7-2014 06:41 AM
Aku rasa dia peristiwa mh17.yg paling untung adalah Ukraine. Jadi mmg dalang kejadian ni mmg dari Uk ...
bukan ukraine shj...ada lagi org yg lebih untung..iaitu dajjalnya...
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Simunggu posted on 21-7-2014 07:33 AM
memang Russia menyokong puak pemisah, membekalkan senjata kan kepakaran...tapi tak semestinya mere ...
separatists tak beli, putin bagi free je kat dorang.
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noor2 posted on 20-7-2014 05:12 PM
dah la membunuh...mencuri barang2 mangsa...kemudian mencuri mayat...apa hak depa???
geram kan baca... rasa nak ludah jue muka sekor2
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mana csi new york,miami???
dorang settle kes sejam jer. |
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huJanBaTu posted on 21-7-2014 05:52 AM
obama nk pegang teloq najib tak lepas..
dah lame dah kene pegang ler
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Putin ala2 lagu rasputin pulak.. |
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protonpersona posted on 21-7-2014 07:59 AM
ini note 500 ukraine...ada lambang mata satu...korang fikir sendiri la
aduss dah masuk teori konspirasi pulak dah 
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pumpkingirl posted on 21-7-2014 07:55 AM
Putin ala2 lagu rasputin pulak..
..boney m? |
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Don’t blame Malaysia Airlines
Almost as soon as the news broke about the shooting down of a Malaysia Airlines flight over Ukraine on Thursday, in which all 298 passengers and crew members were killed, people began to ask: What was a commercial aircraft doing over a conflict zone in the first place? Was this disaster somehow the airline’s fault?
The answer is no — but to understand why, you have to look at the complex realities of modern commercial aviation.
Malaysia Airlines, already world-famous because of the still-missing Flight MH370, appears to have been following all normal safety rules. And the rules governing airline flights over danger zones, including Ukraine, reflect the balance between the risks inherent in any flight and the efficiency on which the world airline system depends.
HOW ARE FLIGHT PATHS DETERMINED?
In principle, every airline flight can minimise travel time, emissions, fuel burn and overall cost by taking the most direct point-to-point route. In practice, everything about commercial aviation involves making adjustments to that ideal direct routing, all of which is managed by the international air control system.
Before a flight, an airliner’s crew coordinates with company despatchers about any necessary deviations from the desired route. During flight, they make further adjustments — to avoid thunderstorms, for example. They often request route shifts to the north or south, or changes of altitude, to find smoother air or more favourable winds.
On take-off and landing, they must follow carefully structured pathways to regulate the flow into and out of busy airports. They may be assigned dogleg-like “airway” routings through congested corridors. And they must be aware of a variety of restricted, prohibited and military-operation airspaces and other special areas on their flight routes.
For instance, planes taking off to the north from Runway 1 at Reagan National Airport must turn immediately right or left, to avoid the prohibited zone over the White House, less than 5km ahead.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which has jurisdiction over American pilots and airlines, and its international counterparts maintain constantly updated “special notice” sites of airspace to avoid. The administration’s current list urges great caution for flights over hot spots such as Yemen, North Korea and Syria, and it prohibits low-level flights (below 20,000 feet) over some sites in Somalia and Iraq.
Since April, the FAA has flatly prohibited all flights by American carriers over the Crimean region of Ukraine — but not over the region 300km to the north, where the Malaysia Airlines flight was shot down (although some foreign airlines, such as Air France, had already adopted prohibitions on flying over Ukraine more or less entirely).
Such explicit prohibitions are critical, because the entire aviation system works on the premise that unless airspace is marked as off-limits, it is presumptively safe and legal for flight. The airlines want to minimise cost and time by going as directly as possible, and they rely on regulators to tell them where they cannot go.
For an example of how a system functions when it is built on a different premise, consider Chinese aviation. A vast majority of Chinese airspace is military-controlled and usually unavailable to airlines. Thus flights in China take much longer, burn much more fuel and are delayed much more frequently than those in North America or Europe.
BLAME THE CRIMINALS
Before Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 took off on Thursday, its crew and despatchers would have known that, a few hours earlier, the Ukrainian authorities had prohibited flights at 32,000 feet and below across eastern parts of their country, “due to combat actions ... near the state border” with Russia, as the official notice put it, including the downing of a Ukrainian military transport plane earlier in the week.
Therefore, when they crossed this zone at 33,000 feet, they were neither cutting it razor-close nor bending the rules, but doing what many other airlines had done, in a way they assumed was both legal and safe. Legal in much the way that driving 63kmh in a 65kmh zone would be.
And safe, not for regulatory reasons only, but because aircraft at cruising altitude are beyond the reach of anything, except strictly military anti-aircraft equipment.
During take-off and landing, airliners are highly vulnerable: They are big, they are moving slowly and in a straight line, they are close to the ground. But while cruising, they are beyond most earthbound criminal or terrorist threats. This is why, even during wartime, airliners have frequently flown across Iraq and Afghanistan. The restricted zone over Ukraine was meant to protect against accidental fire or collateral damage. It did not envision a military attack.
After each crash, disaster or terrorist episode, it is natural to point fingers and say: “Why didn’t we foresee that specific threat?” Thus one attempted shoe-bombing leads to a decade of shoes-off orders in security lines. The truth is that air transportation, like most other modern systems, could not operate if it fortified itself against every conceivable peril.
Malaysia Airlines, its crew and passengers and the civil aviation system are the objects of this crime and tragedy. The finger-pointing should not be at them, but at the criminals.
THE NEW YORK TIMES
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
James Fallows, a national correspondent for The Atlantic and the author, most recently, of “China Airborne,” is an instrument-rated pilot. Last edited by biggirlduncry on 21-7-2014 08:05 AM
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Malaysia must not forgive nor forget
I am angry and I am sure that I am not alone. I want justice and, again, I am sure I am not alone.
We cannot allow MH17 to be forgotten or swept away for political and economic needs.
Those responsible — no matter whether directly or indirectly — for the murder of the 298 people on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 from Amsterdam on that fateful Thursday must be brought to justice.
The Special Parliament meeting on Wednesday to debate and condemn the downing of MH17 must not be about only speeches. Malaysians expect — no, demand — more than only empty talk. Our leaders must react with the anger that all of us feel.
I suggest that Parliament orders the Attorney-General to initiate a criminal investigation into this matter and to bring the perpetrators to justice here in Malaysia, if not at The International Court of Justice.
Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail must be firm in getting the murderers prosecuted. They must be put on public trial for mass murder and be put to death not only in retribution, but also as a deterrent to anyone else even thinking about it.
The Americans have their September 11 tragedy. MH17 is ours.
We have all read about those killed. Many of them are experts in various fields that could have made the world a better place. These murderers have robbed all of us of fathers, mothers, siblings and friends.
NEED FOR SWIFT JUSTICE
The United Nations must be forced to seek out the shooters, planners and, ultimately, the leaders responsible for this most dastardly of murders.
Malaysia is seeking a seat on the United Nations Security Council at the end of this year and we must now make MH17 part of our campaign for that seat. If the UN fails to move, Malaysia must act, even if we have to do so on our own.
Shooting down a civilian aircraft without provocation is an act of war by any definition.
We must act swiftly to bring about justice, especially for the sake of the 298 people killed and for our nation, while we grieve for MH370.
Many of us are still reeling from that tragedy and the nation as a whole is struggling to come to terms with it.
Four months later, we are no closer to the truth than that fateful Saturday of March 8.
However, MH17 is different.
We know who is probably responsible and the world needs to hunt down the criminals.
Malaysia must start by recording in the strongest possible terms its anger by pointing its finger at Ukraine and Russia. These two countries, which we consider friends, must open their doors to our investigators to bring the murderers to justice.
Many people, including myself, do not believe the Russians do not know who pulled the trigger or who ordered the act. If Russia wants to remain a global powerhouse, it must ensure the prosecution must take place and the murderers punished.
Political and economic alliances must not be a consideration when dealing with this.
Almost 100 years ago, the United States entered World War I after the ocean liner RMS Lusitania was torpedoed by a German submarine in 1915. The attack killed 128 Americans on board, among the 1,198 passengers and crew who died in the sinking.
I am sure that if MH17 were an American or British aircraft, there would be international hell to pay. It is our job to make sure this precedence also applies in this case and not allow even one person to escape prosecution.
There may be a civil war in the area the plane was shot down, but downing a civilian aircraft is unforgiveable.
The perpetrators must be brought to justice and I, on behalf of all Malaysians, offer them our courts to do so.
THE MALAY MAIL ONLINE
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Clover_Hill posted on 20-7-2014 10:16 PM
Yg kutuk negara sendiri maybe tak penah keluar dari malaysia..no wonder hanya akan nampak yg buruk ...
110% agreed...
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sedihnya, mayat pun derang bawak lari. semoga dipermudahkan urusan nak bawak blk jenazah and mayat semua yg terkorban dan selamat disemadikan ikut cara masing2. |
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