Post time 22-7-2014 08:20 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
bace kat sydney herald tribune, wartawan malaysia ade yg menangis sbb dihalang oleh puak pberontak pro rusia just sekadar utk melihat coach keretapi mayat tu,' why they hvnot let us in,thats our plane' .. sape2 yg pro russia tu korang xleh terime hakikat yg rusia tu salah, kene ingat sket org rusia mmg benci org islam terutama puak chechen so depa xkisah kalu dpt tmbk kapal terbang islam msia , ukraine lg baik dgn org islam spt crimean turk, i tetap dgn pendirian i yg rusia yg salah
Post time 22-7-2014 08:24 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Ramai duk puji najib hari ni. Ni yg kita nak... good leadership. Kita maintain negara berkecuali tak campur urusan dalaman negara orang. Kes mh17 mmg kena pandai diplomasi, sebab semua benda dah ada depan mata, dah tau dekat mana...tinggal tunggu nak masuk crash site je.
Lepas najib buat pc semalam, PM negara lain ada komen ape2 tak? Nak tau gak reaksi diorang camne.
Post time 22-7-2014 08:29 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
kentutmanis posted on 22-7-2014 08:20 PM
bace kat sydney herald tribune, wartawan malaysia ade yg menangis sbb dihalang oleh puak pberontak p ...
Mh17 ni bkn soal suka islam or tak. Majority passenger bkn islam pun. Ni soal tembak civilian flight. Dan yg penting dpt blackbox & mayat. Dpt jgk access tpt wreckage tu. Dah dpt semua tu br proceed utk investigation sapa yg salah.
Kalo ikut emosi nak follow ckp2 us, ukraine, aussie yg nan hado tu, possibility hapa pun x dpt....
Lgpun malaysia ni negara kecik yg takde sebrg kepentingan utk russia. So xder sbrg sbb utk russia nk berterusan pedajal malaysia. Kalau depa admit salah tembak pun, paling2 byr pampasan jer...
Kate Hodal in Kuala Lumpur has more on the agreement Malaysia made with the Ukrainian separatists
Speaking of the deal he made with separatists late last night, Malaysia's PM Najib Razak says "there were risks involved" and added in a statement late Tuesday afternoon: "We felt an obligation to explore all avenues to break the impasse, and secure the return of the remains and the black boxes. After meeting the families, I felt that we owed it to them to act."
The rebels had so far met the first two conditions of the deal - to hand over the black boxes and the remains of some 282 victims - and that the third, to allow full access to the crash site, was still on-going. He confirmed that the boxes appeared to be in good condition and added: "They will be held securely in Malaysian custody while the international investigation team is being formalised. At that time, we will pass the black boxes to the international investigation team for further analysis."
logically, memang la dia akan bagi kotak hitam tu kat malaysia sebab katebang tu malaysia punya.... nak2 lagi negara2 lain semua sekutu US so naturally puak pemisah tu sah2 takkan percayakan diorang...
tak ada apa yang gah sangat pasal rundingan antara najib dengan mereka... anticipated..
Post time 22-7-2014 08:38 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
kentutmanis posted on 22-7-2014 08:20 PM
bace kat sydney herald tribune, wartawan malaysia ade yg menangis sbb dihalang oleh puak pberontak p ...
Pasal wartawan ni..mmg pemberontak cordon the area..standard procedure mereka kot..biasalah jaga bhan bukti..nak2 mereka mengikut arahan n spy yg menyamar pun banyak..memang masak lah kena bambuu wartawan dgn boss xde berita n gambar nak cover..tu yg menangis ko..pendapat aku je
The SA-11 is a member of a class of weapon that carries a fragmenting warhead with a proximity fuze. If a missile like that functioned as designed, it would cause damage like that evident in the debris of Flight 17.
“The perforation holes that are visible indicate that they are consistent with a foreign object entering from the exterior of the aircraft to the interior of the aircraft, given the contour of the aluminum around a majority of the perforations as well as the visible blistering of the paint around some of the holes themselves,” Reed Foster, an analyst at IHS Jane’s, wrote in an assessment provided to The Times.
kenapa takde orang yg persoalkan bagaimana MH17 hilang dalam radar..
n lost its signals.. bila masuk ruang udara ukraine..
kemudian melencong tak ikut scheduled flight path..
AbukRokok posted on 22-7-2014 08:24 PM
Ingat wajah 2 penjenayah ini
Arseniy Yatsenyuk dan Yulia Tymoshenko - 2 orang zionist
burikkkkkk ni dah 53 la....jewish....
The politician Yulia Tymoshenko was born in Dnepropetrovsk, on November 27th 1960. Initially she used her father’s surname Grighian, but from the late 1970s she preferred her mother’s surname, which was Teleghina. After her marriage in 1979 she became Tymoshenko.
There is some disagreement about Yulia Tymoshenko’s origin. Her official biography has her born to a Latvian man and a Ukrainian woman. In interview she has claimed that: “All the relatives on my father’s side were Latvians to the tenth generation, and to the tenth generation on my mother’s side they were Ukrainians”. Various researchers disagree, however. According to them, Yulia Tymoshenko is of mixed Ukrainian, Jewish and Armenian blood.
Tymoshenko’s mother, one Liudima Nikolaevna Teleghina, was born in Dnepropetrovsk in 1937, where she worked as dispatcher for a haulage company. As her sister Antonina Ulyakhina has recorded in her book “Yulia, Yulilchka”, Tymoshenko’s mother married very young. By this first marriage her maiden surname Nelepova was changed to Teleghina. Her second marriage, to Vladimir Grighian, produced her daughter Yulia.
Yulia Tymoshenko’s father – Vladimir Abramovich Grighian– was also born in Dnepropetrovsk in 1937. His childhood was affected by World War II, but immediately afterwards he began school. He attended Dnepropetrovsk’s school №33 for his first grade, and afterwards transferred to another school, the №100. After graduation he entered the evening school of the Institute of Chemical Engineering from which, however, he was dismissed during his first year. He then worked at Dnepropetrovsk’s confectionery plant, where his mother also worked as a technologist. He was known to have married twice. His second wife was Liudmila Teleghina, and she it was gave birth to Yulia Tymoshenko. Soon after this event, however, Vladimir Grighian quit the family.
Vladimir Grigian’s parents were Maria Iosifovna Grighian and Abram Kelmanovich Kapitelman (respectively, the grandfather and grandmother of Yulia Tymoshenko). Abram Kapitelman is well attested as being the father of Vladimir Grighian. One such documentary source is the autobiography of Vladimir Abramovich.
However, he was recorded under his mother’s surname. “During the period following the Russian Revolution those Jews holding high positions in the Soviet State tended to discard their fathers’ surnames because they sounded explicitly Jewish, and to adopt new ones that sounded more Russian… Later on, this tactic was employed by other Jews. After 1936, when Soviet passports were introduced, it became more difficult, and during the massive repressions of 1937-1938 it became almost impossible. Even then, however, there remained options: when a child was born it could be recorded using either the father’s or the mother’s surname and nationality. Obviously the Kapitelmans took advantage of the possibility and gave their son Vladimir the surname of his mother - Grighian”. (Dmitriy Chobot, in his book “Makukha, or Touches to the Political Portrait of Yulia Tymoshenko”).
Several holders of the Grighian surname did actually arrive from Latvia, instance Iosif Iosifovich Grighian, the father of Maria Iosifovna Grighian, and hence great grandfather to Yulia Tymoshenko. According to Tymoshenko’s own version, the family surname acquired an Armenian nuance because of a mistake by the passport authority, whose officials overlooked several letters at the end of his actual surname Grighianis. Some biographers have attempted to trace such names to Latvia. They have indeed located a few with the surname Grig’yanis, but have found many more Grighians in the Caucasus. For example, the agency “Armenia Today” writes about namesakes of Yulia Tyoshenko whole live in Yerevan, and in the mountain villages of Nagorny Karabakh.
Close ties with the Armenian diaspora in Dnepropetrovsk could serve, indirectly, to confirm Tymoshenko’s Caucasian roots. Thus one of the her party members is Gareghin Arutiunov. He is chairman of the Armenian community in the Dnepropetrovsk region, and a businessman who has consistently supported Yulia Timoshenko’s own business career. He remains one of her closest family friends. This is the reason, presumably, why she refused to ban him from her party when other members complained about his activities in an open letter, and when ordinary Ukrainians protested against him at a rally.
Others have cited the area of Dnepropetrovsk where Yulia Tymoshenko still chooses to live. Her address is 26 Karl Marx Avenue, where her cousin is thought to share the same building. This area, around the intersection of Karl Marx Avenue and Voroshilov Street, has long been known as a “Jewish quarter”, and is still mainly inhabited by the Jewish community.
Yevgeniy Chevonenko, a colleague of Yulia Tymoshenko from the Orange Revolution, also confirms her Jewish and Armenian origins. Referring to a young Jew who was beaten up in Kiev in 2005, he suggested that she should be more active against anti-Semitism, “because Yulia Tymoshenko’s mother is a Jew and her father is Armenian. Armenians and Jews historically suffered most from genocide”..
Politicians, experts and journalists have repeatedly criticised Yulia Tymoshenko for disingenuity about her ethnic roots. In election campaigns this has caused considerable speculation.
http://www.dailystormer.com/ukraine-prime-minister-arseniy-yatsenyuk-is-a-jew/ Last edited by razhar on 22-7-2014 08:53 PM
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