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[Tempatan] NGO: Penerima bantuan jual semula bantuan sebab tak sama dgn citarasa jenis bara

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Post time 1-7-2021 09:07 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
wirazam replied at 1-7-2021 05:01 AM
Aku rasa..instead kita bagi ikan..why not kalau kali nih kita bagi pancing pulak..sejarah telah  ...

Msa PKP 1.0 ada buat.. Ramai homeless dpt kerja walaupn ada yg mmg pilih tanak keje. Tatau la..mungkin tade documentation langsung or mmg jenis malas.
Org Malaysia ni pulak ramai yg suka derma dgn konsep..'takpe la...sikit jee'. termasuk la iols. Bagusnya CSI ummah netz back to back ni buat iols lebih berhati2..
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Post time 1-7-2021 09:09 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Eh mengada2 betul...
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Post time 1-7-2021 09:36 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mclaren replied at 30-6-2021 03:58 PM
Nak cadangkan macam ni untuk bantuan.

Jangan beli barang keperluan dan derma.

maybe you misread
ni luahan ngo persendirian bukan badan kerajaan
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Post time 1-7-2021 09:41 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
chandrahusin replied at 30-6-2021 09:55 PM
aku perasan dlm 1 grup wasapp
smpai 3 4 tempat untuk ambik bakul bantuan
semua bagi sama - telur b ...

ada yg mrminta
nescafe 3in1
milo
nestum
choc milk

kalo kami ngo nak dgr semua permintaan
baik kami bukak tesco free for all

makanan ruji seperti beras gula garam tu paling asas
kalo isi rumah ada anak2 kecil
shin suka beri nugget french fries juga
ayam ikan bkn hanya sardin

rule of the thumb bila meminta bantuan
pastikan tiada lagi wang simpanan
beri laluan yg dah korek tabung ayam pun
seposen takda

pkp 1.0 ada budak2 indon yg meminta bantuan
mmg shin sediakan sepapan telur
tapi dia amik 5 biji jer
dia kata biar org lain pun dpt merasa lauk

org camni amat2 shin hormati
bkn yg jenis dtg bersilih ganti
dari satu isi rumah
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Post time 1-7-2021 09:47 AM | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy replied at 1-7-2021 09:41 AM
ada yg mrminta
nescafe 3in1
milo

pertama2 sekali terima kasih
pd korang yg rajin betul turun padang bagi bantuan
bagus sgt bila siap selidik lagi keadaan
yg nak dibagi bantuan tersebut
rasa bangga sbb rakyat Malaysia ramai baik hati
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Post time 1-7-2021 09:50 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ni sape? mamat yg katanya mmg jenis suka meminta2 ke laki bini? sbb kt pasir gudang
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Post time 1-7-2021 09:58 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
chandrahusin replied at 1-7-2021 09:47 AM
pertama2 sekali terima kasih
pd korang yg rajin betul turun padang bagi bantuan
bagus sgt bila  ...

menginsafkan sebenarnya dear
ujian utk kami juga
mentally kena prepared bila berdeoan
dgn yg bebetul susah ni
ramai yg cakna ramai yg sayang ramai yg pemurah
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:00 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy replied at 1-7-2021 09:41 AM
ada yg mrminta
nescafe 3in1
milo

alahai malunya rasa dgn bdk2 indon tu..dpt jenis beringat takpe. dpt org jenis ambil kesempatan time2 ni laa dia guna peluang sebaiknya
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:00 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
rayray28 replied at 1-7-2021 09:50 AM
ni sape? mamat yg katanya mmg jenis suka meminta2 ke laki bini? sbb kt pasir gudang

ainul haritu ada share juga
jenis yg minta bantuan
tak menyabar
byk kisah peminta tu
teruk jugak dia kena bash
bila org kata dia riak dan mengaibkan

for shin selagi kita memupuk minda
dah rezeki dia bukan salah menipu
kita sedang dlm tak sedar create a community
yg tiada tau malu dlm penipuan
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:10 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy replied at 1-7-2021 09:36 AM
maybe you misread
ni luahan ngo persendirian bukan badan kerajaan

Bukan shin, I was merely giving an idea yang actually dah lama bersarang kat kepala ni but I only talked about it among my family.

This incident triggered me to luahkan kat sini. Not specifically responding to kes dalam 1st post.
But generally lah, makanan2 yang tipikal didermakan ni maybe not suitable for everyone.

Yes beggars can't br choosers but what if some recipients tu memang tak boleh makan those crackers cookies instant noodles rice canned sardines etc kan..... mostly yang didermakan are highly processed foods yang later bakal bebankan our health care system anyway. Not to say those yang susah ni all willingly nak be wise in choosing but I think for starters untuk elakkan pembaziran, let them choose what they can eat. Cuma within limits lah jajan all those takleh beli lah.
But just a rough idea. I know ramai outside can perkasakan lagi idea ni so that more foolproof.
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:13 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by mclaren at 1-7-2021 10:14 AM
OsHiN_hOnEy replied at 1-7-2021 09:41 AM
ada yg mrminta
nescafe 3in1
milo


Yes your rule of thumb yang takde lagi savings tu wajib.
Ingat Kim.k ke siapa cerita, yang kat fb ada bising tak dapat bantuan kerajaan and siap kata takkanlah mereka nak sentuh savings kot untuk hidup? They had the audacity to say that publicly lagi! SMH.....


Respek nya kat Indon yang tak selfish tu..... wow.
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:14 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Jika tidak mengikut citarasa itu bukan lagi keperluan. Itu adalah kehendak...
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:22 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mclaren replied at 1-7-2021 10:10 AM
Bukan shin, I was merely giving an idea yang actually dah lama bersarang kat kepala ni but I only  ...

di negara jiran
kerajaan team up with NTUC
pasaraya yg semi goverment agaknya
dan beri food vouchers
so pepandai lar nak beli apa yg perlu
kalo tak berdisplin
keluar bawa icecream magnum lar gamaknya
begitu juga bila bantuan kewangan dihulurkan
ada yg tunjuk beli kordial yg mahal
minuman yoghurt bewarna utk anak2
cheese slice etc
bkn tak boleh tapi barangan tu mahal kot
still the problem with hunger will persist

yer baik sgt budak2 indon tu
sampai shin korek my freezer and gave them mcm2 dik


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Post time 1-7-2021 10:24 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ini namanya xreti bersyukur..syok kan derma tnpa usul piksa...yg menderma satu hal, yg dpt derma perangai pun musibat
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:24 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mclaren replied at 1-7-2021 10:13 AM
Yes your rule of thumb yang takde lagi savings tu wajib.
Ingat Kim.k ke siapa cerita, yang kat  ...

bkn kita nak suruh sampai tahap
papa kedana baru kita nak bantu
tapi ada yg dtg dgn kereta baru polish
barang kemas lap lip
anak2 nmpk sihat cukup mkn

ada yg dtg amik pek susu
check kat fb baru beli microphone berlampu
suka karok katanya
dugaan sungguh utk berhusnuzon
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:33 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy replied at 1-7-2021 10:22 AM
di negara jiran
kerajaan team up with NTUC
pasaraya yg semi goverment agaknya

Can expand on this mart idea.
They can shop there with the vouchers tapi dalam tu limited products la. Cheese meese flavored yogurts etc not sold there. Really basic and good healthy cheap stuff. I think this mart if aunty kat Ipoh yang kutip edible plants tepi jalan tu dapat access, she would be super grateful and silap2 boleh bukak gerai jual home cooked food out of this privilege.
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:33 AM | Show all posts
renko replied at 30-6-2021 03:36 PM
sapa suh kemaruk sangat beriye nak tolong orang
main hamak je bantu konon prihatin kan
pastu nak k ...

jangan cakap macam tu.... kita belum pernah dalam keadaan tersepit macam orang lain...
kita belum di uji dengan anak2 menangis lapar... pihak yang membantu tak salah... jasa baik dorang memang
sangat2 diharapkan dalam keadaan genting sekarang ni.... cuma yg kita marah adalah pd yg mengambil kesempatan.
Kalau rasa dah cukup bantuan diterima atau tidak menepati "citarasa" (dah tersepit masih nak bercitarasa).. pulangkan
balik bantuan tu.. boleh dibagi pd ramai lagi yg memerlukan.  Ni semua terletak pada keikhlasan masing2.. samada pada
sipemberi dan juga si penerima....
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:36 AM | Show all posts
OsHiN_hOnEy replied at 1-7-2021 10:24 AM
bkn kita nak suruh sampai tahap
papa kedana baru kita nak bantu
tapi ada yg dtg dgn kereta baru  ...

level-level macam ni memang melampau laaa..
tapi.. di mana rasa 'kemaluan' dorang ni datang mohon bantuan
sedangkan datang berkereta bagai.... memang muka tebal sungguh..
sedangkan yg betul2 susah pun ada yang masih segan2 nak mohon bantuan
sehingga dah abis akal & usaha baru mohon....
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:38 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mclaren replied at 1-7-2021 10:33 AM
Can expand on this mart idea.
They can shop there with the vouchers tapi dalam tu limited product ...

do you know her contacts please?
cari kat link tu takda lar pulak
mmg tu perlu bantuan
because anak dia pun tak sihat

as for the mart
why not hidupkan blk kedai 1 malaysia tu
tapi tu lar confirm yg ada beras gula tepung garam maggie
hihi
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Post time 1-7-2021 10:43 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Sbb tu bantuan ni patutnya berpusat. Guna centralized data. Tkt tersalah bantu/bantu org yg sama tp sbnrnya ada org lain yg masih menunggu bantuan.
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