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dani-rox

Another 27 bodies from MH17 found

Twenty-seven more bodies have been found along with 20 fragments of bodies at the site where the Malaysia Airlines plane crashed, Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman said.

He told a news conference that the bodies of 192 of the 298 people killed when the plane was shot down in eastern Ukraine on Thursday had been placed in refrigerated train wagons before being sent home for burial.

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Alexander Borodai, leader of the pro-Russian reblels, said that the plane's black boxes had been recovered and would be handed over to the International Civil Aviation Organisation.

He also said that the bodies recovered from the crash site would remain in refrigerated rail wagons in the rebel-held town of Torez, 15 kilometres (9 miles) from the crash site, until the arrival of an international aviation delegation.

"The bodies will go nowhere until experts arrive," Borodai said, speaking in the rebel-held city of Donetsk.

Borodai said he was expecting a team of 12 Malaysian experts and that he was disappointed at how long they had taken to arrive. He insisted that rebels had not interfered with the crash investigation.

ida88

finesse posted on 20-7-2014 10:14 PM
nak tahu pendapat korang, agak-agak siapa dalang tradegi ni berdasarkan maklumat yang kita tahu seka ...

Ukraine sendirik
Nak ke Putin mencemar duli ruang udara berdekatan ukraine

razhar

reply dari Zetatalk...

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On the day a civilian airliner was shot out of the sky by a missile, what clues exist as to the hand on the missile and the agenda at play? Material from the aircraft, in pieces on the ground, will be useless in this regard, nor will any black box recorders provide information as the pilots and instruments were silenced instantly.

What is KNOWN is what US satellites saw, what a Spanish air traffic controller working in Kiev saw being reported, what eye witnesses on the ground saw, the date on a recording claimed to be of a rebel conversation, and the fact that the Ukraine was having difficulty suppressing the rebellion on those in southeastern Ukraine.   

US satellites confirmed it was a missile, but delayed stating the SOURCE of the shot, an odd and very telling delay. Why so long in computing the trajectory? In that a Spanish air traffic control agent reported Ukraine military admitting the missile did not come from rebel areas, and in that this agent has now disappeared, we have our answer.

Yes the rebels had a captured BUK but per a Ukraine official report, it was considered to be non-operational. Of course, the Ukraine also had the BUK, capable of rising to 33,000 feet to disable a plane. The Ukraine quickly put out a recorded conversation of the rebels bragging, but analysis of this recording shows it was made the day BEFORE the shootdown.

Creating a tragedy to induce partners to enter into a war is certainly nothing new. The US has been accused of doing this at Pearl Harbor to allow the US to engage during WW II and the Gulf of Tonkin incident allowing the US to engage during the Vietnam war. Only months ago an incident with poison gas in Syria

http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue366.htm

was shown to be an attempt to draw the US into a war with Syria on behalf of Israel. Despite the vote showing that the majority of people in the southeastern Ukraine region want to be considered Russian, the leadership in the Ukraine is furious that neither NATO or the US is fighting on their side. In that Putin was reported to be overhead on the same path as MH 17 just minutes before the shootdown, this is also an attempt to aggravate Putin to engage.

The world will resist these attempts, but the truth of who actually shot down MH 17 will likely never be admitted by the west.
EOZT

hzln

razhar posted on 20-7-2014 10:39 PM
So ada lagi nak komen?

tok moh teropong versi omputeh ka? hahahaha

ida88

dani-rox posted on 20-7-2014 10:38 PM
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4 diff villages
jauh tu

finesse

fin rasa ukraine ni macam banyak songeh..
pasal video tu pun dah kantoi..
ehm entah la..

razhar

hzln posted on 20-7-2014 10:42 PM
tok moh teropong versi omputeh ka? hahahaha

ayo lobai..ni bukan tahap tok moh x bley pakai tu...sila bezakan dia - zetatalk dari haprak tropong tu...

kakigebang

ni aku quote dr  "http://theaviationist.com/2014/07/20/inside-buk-telar-images/"

"But, Soviet-era air defense systems as the Buk are equipped with IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) systems meaning that they are able to detect if the system is targeting a civilian plane through its transponder code. Therefore, provided the operators are trained enough, they’ll be able to distinguish between a Ukrainian transport plane and a large airliner. If not, they will simply shoot."

walaupun just nampak blip je kat radar tapi system IFF boleh detect either civil or mil airplane. kalau radar takleh detect bende simple ni, mampos ketaq la pilot ... org pon tak brani naik flight

razhar

finesse posted on 20-7-2014 10:44 PM
fin rasa ukraine ni macam banyak songeh..
pasal video tu pun dah kantoi..
ehm entah la..

bila bideo yang depa buat tu DAH awal2 kantoi..adakah kita masih mahu pircaya Ukraine ni???? Sehingga kini Ukraine/federal x bley kuasai kawasan situ...ini adalah strategi mereka utk hancurkan rebels dgn menggunakan UN sebagai rotan...

hzln

ayat wajib bagi puak2 ini:
pihak yg membocorkan maklumat yg menceritakan perkara yg sebenar yg berlaku telah dilaporkan hilang/mati kena bunuh

finesse

hzln posted on 20-7-2014 10:40 PM
waktu malaysia lah tuh..artikel puak kokusen penganut agama konspirashit kopipes dari the star jah ...

seoalah-olah dunia ni leper pulak

razhar

kakigebang posted on 20-7-2014 10:45 PM
ni aku quote dr  "http://theaviationist.com/2014/07/20/inside-buk-telar-images/"

"But, Soviet-era ...

so mmg ukraine punya kija..depa pakai BUK ni..ada crews..tapi kerana nak halalkan cara utk tumpas kan rebels yang degil ni..something must be sacrificed...kan?

alinone78

CiliPadiSedap posted on 20-7-2014 06:39 PM
jd teori islam melayu sunni duk khabar mati kt mekah masuk syurga tu hadis dhaif ke? kaka an ...

Jangan terpedaya denagn benda2 khurafat kakak
Mati dalam jamban pun kalau amalannya berat bahagian yang baik
Maka k syurgalah dia..

dani-rox

ida88 posted on 20-7-2014 10:43 PM
4 diff villages
jauh tu

ai harap semua 298 mayat dijumpai... sedihnya kalau ada yg jatuh di tempat yg sgt terpencil dan tersorok dr pandangan mata.

ida88

dani-rox posted on 20-7-2014 10:50 PM
ai harap semua 298 mayat dijumpai... sedihnya kalau ada yg jatuh di tempat yg sgt terpencil dan te ...

Itu la..i hrp dijumpai la kesemua nye dan dibawa pulang ke negara masing2
yg hancur tu kan, dorang akan identify satu2 ke atau mcmne
sorry i belum abes backlog

ultra78

razhar posted on 20-7-2014 10:46 PM
bila bideo yang depa buat tu DAH awal2 kantoi..adakah kita masih mahu pircaya Ukraine ni???? Sehin ...

First time aku tengok pun dah mcm ragu-ragu. Sama ada intelligence ukraine ni sangat cekap atau itu kelentong sahaja

5229

hzln posted on 20-7-2014 10:29 PM
memang sah2 lah teori nak tembak kapal putin itu propaganda made in kremlin...nak kata ini ukraine ...

choi sgt propaganda level2 advisor najib.. kot kremlim pon xjangka pastu kuar teori ala2 bidan terjun nih..

cumanya..kecelaruan politik akan berpanjangan la sbb libat abg besar..

alieyrina

Aku doubt la jenazah bleh sampai b4 raya..sar team  nak gerak pun x bleh2 lagi ...statik jah kat situ...

Dari hari 1st. lagi aku dah x bley imagine the way they treated dead bodies..kalau la aku ahli kuarga mangsa, meraung aku tgk gambaq2 suma ni ...aku yg xdak  kaitan pun rasa devastated, inikan pulak family depa...

kakigebang

razhar posted on 20-7-2014 10:47 PM
so mmg ukraine punya kija..depa pakai BUK ni..ada crews..tapi kerana nak halalkan cara utk tumpas  ...

yup .. cume point aku kat sini sape2 crew pun yg operate BUK ni tau yg depa akan shot down civil airplane. cuma samada diorng tau tu Mas or Sia  or cathay pac ke mmg teori konspirasi laa.
Puak separatist pro rusiayg rugi bila jadi camni. UN akan masuk areatu atas  tiket UN. so terdedah la..

dani-rox

ida88 posted on 20-7-2014 10:54 PM
Itu la..i hrp dijumpai la kesemua nye dan dibawa pulang ke negara masing2
yg hancur tu kan, doran ...

kalau tak silap derang akan check semua cebisan mayat
dan ikut berita, ramai gak keluarga yg demand agar mayat family member mereka dihantar pulang

tak tau lah perkembangannya sekarang, masih samar2 lg... mungkin ada perubahan pada plan awal. who knows.