Pesawat MH17 Terhempas V3 : Ketua pemberontak sudah hubungi Malaysia #1

miu84

hzln posted on 20-7-2014 03:21 PM
sesak napas aku baca segala aneka sampah sarap melayu dan tanah melayu adalah bangsa dan tempat terp ...

banyak sangat layan cerekarama. dolu dolu pulak layan spektra.

Babai

maxim posted on 20-7-2014 03:26 PM
MH17: Rusia kantoi ubah maklumat Wikipedia

Rekod kemaskini di laman mikro 'Twitter Bot' RuGov ...

Ape yang kantoi? Maklumat yang kononnya asal tu pun sebenarnya spekulasi juga.

limesherbet

paling lantang kah negara kita tentang israel? ada trade relations dgn israel tu maknanya againsts israel ke? lip-service semua org boleh buat...tapi action, contradicting

hzln

Muntz posted on 20-7-2014 03:38 PM
Kannnn!! Bukan main megah cakap kita lantang mengkritik Israel, pasport kita jah yg terang2 caka ...

woiihhh...depa cakap eksport sawit tuh utk palestine katanyaaaaaa....cuma mendarat kat pelabuhan israel....maka orang kampung pun angguk2...
data jumlah dan nilai dagangan yg dikeluarkan EU tu bohong semata2 ok?

batmana

Muntz posted on 20-7-2014 03:32 PM
Bukan masalah asing kaum atau tak, tapi masalahnya takder apa yg dilakukan utk memupuk patriotism. ...

orang malaysia kisah lar..
yg tk kisah, org politik..

tiap hari slot berita tv media perdana, diperuntukn 5minit - 10 minit tuk condemn pembangkang.

keutamaan kerajaan kan
ikut turutan

1. condemn pembangkang
2. condemn pembangkang
3. condemn pembangkang
4. buat kerja.. daultkn negara..

cocoagirl

Bila dah x de rasa bersatu padu tu mmg senng2 la pihak luar nak masuk. Kita ni dalamn pun bergaduh sana sini berebut kuasa. Org luar dah nmpk kelemahan senang nak buat onar. Lg risau kalu ada pengkianat tanpa sedar...

cha22

tak sure dah ade ke blm. found a very good explanation kat FB. ni khas ditujukan pada yg masih meratib about route yg MAS guna. copy, cut & paste, just amek important notes jek.


NOTAM FDC 4/7667 (A0012/14) does prohibit aircrafts to overfly the area, but this only apply to FAA governed aircrafts, of which Malaysia is not. There are no NFZ or Active Danger Areas / Prohibited Area imposed in accordance to ICAO Annex 11 over the area MAS was flying over. Similar to MAS, other airlines did the same as no international regulation prohibits them from overflying the zone.

If an airline has to plan a diverted route simply because they would be flying a crisis area, then ALL AIRLINES should not fly over Lebanon, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan-India border, Sri Lanka, South Thailand, Myanmar, North Korea, African countries, Gulf of Eden, Timor Leste, Israel & Palestine, Egypt, Eastern Sabah, Inland China-Nepal borders, Liberia, Western Sahara, Coat d'Ivorie, Republic of Congo, Sudan and many more. Why? Because these are conflict zones, some are even deemed dangerous to the point which requires international battalions under UN charter to do 'peacekeeping', some are under sanctions for war violations, these are placea with rocket launchers, some have nuclear warheads, some are trigger happy and launch 100 missiles a day just to annoy their neighbouring country...the list goes on and on...

PS: for the kind information to all you ignorant idiots, MAS17 last coordinates were at N0481350 E385030, Please refer to FAA NOTAM FDC 4/7667 (A0012/14) DATED 23 APRIL 2014 and UK FIR NOTAM EGTT B1258/14 DATED 30 JUNE 2014, you will find that had u taken the effort to research before you talk, you would see that MAS 17 last coordinates were approximately 3 degrees NORTH of the Northernmost Boundary of the NOTAM designated lat-longs. They were no where in the area your 'press' clipings are quoting from. Idiots.

Btw, in case u dont know, 1 degree of Lat is approximately 110km or 59.4 nm and 3 degrees is approximately 330 or 178nm, just short of the distance from Kuala Lumpur to Penang which is about 187nm. To those who cannot comprehend my point, MH17 was approximately 180 nautical miles or 330km OUTSIDE the designated prohibited zones, not inside, not over, not through, not ada la kena sikit.. Argue with me now. Please!

Also, the FAA NOTAM was established based on the UKDV Simferopol NOTAM A1492/14 which designates certain areas as prohibited. firstly, this is not on reasons of risk to aircrafts from ballistics or rockets, but due to the tussle between ukraine who are the legal ATS providers for the area and Russia who was trying to unilaterally establish an ATS service in violation of ICAO Annex 2 and PANS-OPS DOC4444. The NOTAM was established to avoid confusion to aircrafts. Secondly, it only applies from FL260-FL320 and clearly states that all operations outside the designated areaa are considered normal. MH17, although was not within the designated areas, were also flying 1000ft above the upper limits of the NOTAM.

Next, US FAA yesterday established a NEW NOTAM A1507/14 which extends this upper limit to UNL (UNLIMITED) as well as expanded the boundaries to cover the entire crimean peninsular effectively making UKRAINE an OFFICIAL AND LEGAL No Fly Zone. Question, if MH17 was already violating (they were not btw, kalau ada yg bebal lagi) airspace restrictions, why the sudden change by the US FAA making the entire airspace prohibited to FAA governed operations? FAA pun dah kena baru nak react ke?

ps#2: NOTAMS stands for Notice to Airmen. Official notices or memos to airlines and pilots which are given out by local aviation authorities all over the world. it will signify any closures of airspace or airports, danger areas, temporary closures, military excercises, no fly zones, changes in frequencies, unservicable equipments etc etc. Routes are planned based on these and weather reports as well as other operational policies and requirements, all in accordance to ICAO Annexes 1 to 11.


*credit to Arian Adenan FB. byk jargon yg x bape nak paham but at least ada clearer view.

teen_angelJB

Muntz posted on 20-7-2014 03:18 PM
Nasib lah nok. Benda nie boleh jadi pada siapa2. Jgn question qada dan qadar serta ketentuan Illah ...

aku bukan question qada ALLAH..
kan aku ckp..
if betul ini konspirasi..
nape malaysia yg kd target..
mmg la semua da qada yang esa..
ayooo amma..

aechae

aiyooo...psl nk kaitan mayat mh370 dgn mh17 sgt lah nonsense.....apa ingt in buske bleh ada pit stop benti nk sumbat mayat bagai?  

MrRothschild

hzln posted on 20-7-2014 03:21 PM
sesak napas aku baca segala aneka sampah sarap melayu dan tanah melayu adalah bangsa dan tempat terp ...

tak salah..
ummah melayu pun nak nampak hebat dan bersaing bab cerita2 mitos ni... modal share & like dah dapat pahala dan jihad kekdah nya

HerSheys

dh declare negara islam so org luar taula ni negara islam.. org kite je yg xngaku msia negara islam

Muntz

hzln posted on 20-7-2014 03:42 PM
woiihhh...depa cakap eksport sawit tuh utk palestine katanyaaaaaa....cuma mendarat kat pelabuhan i ...

Beratus2 juta dollar nilai import eksport dari Israel kay, siap trade deficit lagi (keuntungan memihak kepada Israel), tapi tetap gak nak berdagang dgn negara Yahudi laknatullah ni.

eazzad

ni saya ambil dari Fb... Pen Merah...

Tiada Negara yang seberani Negara Malaysia
1. Ini bukan kata aku tetapi kata dari seorang rakan dari Sepanyol. Kenapa dia kata macam tu? İtu semua selepas dia belek-belek passport aku dan dia sangat terkejut bila dia terbaca 'Passport ini sah digunakan disemua Negara kecuali İsrael.'
2. Katanya. "Eh saya tak pernah tengok passport yang macam ni. Malaysia benar-benar anti İsrael. Saya boleh katakan tiada Negara yang seberani Negara Malaysia!"
3. Rakan-rakan Palestin pula kebanyakan daripada mereka sudah tahu perihal passport Malaysia. Bagi mereka yang baru tahu, berpusu-pusulah ambil gambar dan share di Facebook. Kata salah seorang dari mereka "Di Palestin kami tak boleh sebut nama Malaysia sesuka hati apatah lagi kalau askar İsrael ada sebab mereka sangat sensitif dengan Negara Malaysia. Kebencian mereka terhadap kalian (malaysia) membanggakan kami warga Palestin!"
4. Seoang rakan Jordan aku mengatakan bahawa tiada langsung di dalam mana-mana passport negara Arab yang berani tulis macam ni sebab mereka takut dengan İsrael. Tapi Malaysia bukan Arab pun Negara pun jauh tapi jauh lebih berani dan kuat daripada Arab sendiri.
5. Dan yang paling tak boleh blah seorang rakan aku dari Libya mengatakan sesuatu yang keterlaluan bagi aku iaitu "Saya rasa seolah-olah Nabi Muhammad bukan dari Arab tapi dari Malaysia sebab kami tengok orang Malaysia jauh lebih sayang İslam dari orang Arab sendiri"
6. Demi Allah yang memegang urat jantungku, ini semua bukan rekaan tetapi inilah yang aku lihat dan dengar ketika di Turki. Sedangkan orang Turki pun kibarkan bendera Malaysia di kedainya apatah lagi dengan kenyataan seperti ini.negara kita akan terus membantu palestin..


Malaysia ni kecil2 Cili Padi.... agak itulah kot cara diorang nak malaysia tunduk angguk ikat hidung ikut diorang tu...

HerSheys

malaysia mmg xleh lari dah dari permainan us-israel

dah baca ni? http://www.thestar.com.my/News/N ... ebel-leader-claims/

ade kemungkinan mayat dah lama mati.. mayat penumpang mh370 ke?

HerSheys

malaysia mmg xleh lari dah dari permainan us-israel

dah baca ni? http://www.thestar.com.my/News/N ... ebel-leader-claims/

ade kemungkinan mayat dah lama mati.. mayat penumpang mh370 ke?

MrRothschild

eazzad posted on 20-7-2014 03:55 PM
ni saya ambil dari Fb... Pen Merah...

Tiada Negara yang seberani Negara Malaysia

bersajak ke berpantun...

bangladesh,pakistan etc etc pun kat passport depa tertulis ' except israel"... apa yang anehnya???
nak ber speku dan berkonspirashit watpe, kes mh370 & mh17 kita dah dapat tgk dengan jelas bahawa "Malaysia is nothing"...di arena politic global

noor2

Nham22 posted on 20-7-2014 02:18 PM
Betul ka noor..harap najibxkene heart attack..sian ooo..sian msia..

speku i ja...harap tak de peristiwa besar ketiga pulak..

eazzad

@HerSheys  saya pun terpikir macam tu... mana perginya MH370? tetiba kenapa pulak nak MH17?? tetiba datang pulak mayat dah lama membusuk dan dah mati lama... ape kes?? ni semua cerita putar belit US..  

ellekarma

agaknya, kalau Malaysia berperang atau diserang, ada tak sesiapa org awam sggup volunteer utk pertahankan negara?

tgk keadaan skrg, internally berbalah sesama kita, mcm tak ada je.

penat jd ambassador tak bertauliah kt luar negara ni. org masing2 tau iols ni dr malaysia, jd bila ada isu je terutama pasal politic iols kena tny. yg lg sadis, org kita sndri kutuk negara kte kt negara luo.

eazzad

@MrRothschild  saja je... nak bangga skit.. kitakan Malaysia...