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[Tempatan] Galakkan poligami, bukan menyusahkan

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Post time 13-5-2014 09:56 PM | Show all posts
ada bahalol tak tahu apa makna paedophile...ni wa tolong sekolahkan...


paedophile = someone who is sexually interested in children.

children/child = Biologically, a child (plural: children) is generally a human between the stages of birth and puberty.

umur Aisyah RA masa kawin, 9 tahun ( mungkin lebih ikut kajian terkini )...dah bukan budak lagi pada zaman dahulu..



Delaware US tahun 1880...budak umur 7 tahun dah boleh buat bini..
Iowa, Kansas, Alabama...budak umur 10 sah kawin disisi undang2...




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Post time 13-5-2014 09:57 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 13-5-2014 09:52 PM
u cannot  even produce a good fact you know , kalau bebetul terror , bawa fakta you masuk ke board ...

dia sekolah tak abis...nak buat camno..??



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Post time 13-5-2014 10:06 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nolya posted on 13-5-2014 09:49 PM
kura2 dlm perahu, itik serati ayam serama, pura2 pula u tak tau, sudah tau kenapalah tanya.

Well just confirming.. alhamdulillah..
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Post time 13-5-2014 10:30 PM | Show all posts
Radzor posted on 13-5-2014 09:36 PM
Bukan takat poligami.. Nak Kawen sorang pun mcm2 procedure utk beragama Islam..

Islam is a way of life.  Therefore Islam  mengaturkan pelbagai peraturan adalah demi kesejahteraan umatnya sendiri.  Semuanya ada pantang larang yg perlu dipatuhi sebaik2nya demi mengelakkan perbelahan sesama manusia.  Apapun mesti ada peraturan supaya hidup lebih karuan.



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Post time 13-5-2014 10:33 PM | Show all posts
nolya posted on 13-5-2014 10:30 PM
Islam is a way of life.  Therefore Islam  mengaturkan pelbagai peraturan adalah demi kesejahteraan ...

madu sama madu tarak gaduh kalu...

sudah tentu hidup si laki aman...senyum je 24jam...



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Post time 13-5-2014 10:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nolya posted on 13-5-2014 10:30 PM
Islam is a way of life.  Therefore Islam  mengaturkan pelbagai peraturan adalah demi kesejahteraan ...

Peraturan yang dibuat oleh sape dan bila? Ajaran Rasulullah dah lengkap, nak nak gi wat peraturan baru? Cthnya nape perlu kebenaran isteri pertama untuk berkahwin lagi sedangkan zaman Rasulullah xde peraturan sebegitu?
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Post time 13-5-2014 11:04 PM | Show all posts
Badut.Sarkas posted on 13-5-2014 10:34 PM
Peraturan yang dibuat oleh sape dan bila? Ajaran Rasulullah dah lengkap, nak nak gi wat peraturan  ...

Saya tidak pernah mengiyakan peraturan manusia yg memerlukan keizinan untuk suami memadukan isterinya.  Peraturan ini memang tidak ada dlm Islam tetapi diwujudkan demi maslahat isteri pertama.  Pun begitu, nampaknya ia tidak menyelesaikan masalah.  Sang suami, kalau sudah tekad untuk berkahwin lain, tujuh lautan pun akan diterbangi. Sehidup semati hanya indah kalimat kata. Realitinya boleh sehidup tapi mati lain2 hari.  Bahagia itu mahal harganya, harus dicagarkan dgn sabar dan iman.

Kalau kita tanya mengapakah lelaki tidak setia, bolehkah kita mendapat jawapannya?  Kalau jawapan itu tiada maka bersabarlah kita seadanya.
Samada kita bersabar sambil pasrah atau kita sabar mengorak langkah.




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Post time 13-5-2014 11:09 PM | Show all posts
lavasport posted on 13-5-2014 09:56 PM
ada bahalol tak tahu apa makna paedophile...ni wa tolong sekolahkan...

Nak copy paste wikipedia, copy paste tak habis.

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13

Thieo bantu hang copy paste aja, tak da lah kena log in mn baru
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Post time 14-5-2014 12:16 AM | Show all posts
thieo posted on 13-5-2014 11:09 PM
Nak copy paste wikipedia, copy paste tak habis.

alang2 nak copy paste wa copy paste best punyer article...


Was Ayesha really 6 years old when she married Muhammad?
A few comments about Muhammad’s marriages are in order. Muhammad married his first wife, Khadijah, several years before his announcement as a prophet of Islam.  Khadijah was a reasonably well-to-do woman of Makkah and was 15 years his senior.  Muhammad was 25 and Khadijah was 40 at the time of their marriage. This loving and caring monogamous relationship continued for 25 years until her death.  Muhammad, now over 50 years of age, married a relatively aged woman by the name of Saudah.  It is thus important to note here that Muhammad’s twenty five prime youth years were spent in purely monogamous relationship with a lady 15 years his senior. This speaks volumes about this man’s piety and loyalty in spousal matters as well as about the fact that his later marriages could not have been motivated by any human wild sexual desires. In 620-621 A.D, he and his devout companions migrated from Makkah to Medina. Then a couple of years later, he married Ayesha, a daughter of his closest companion, Abu Bakr, in the 3rdHijrah (Islamic calendar--623-24 A.D).  This information coming from diverse historical and Hadith sources is widely agreed upon and therefore can be, a priori, considered authentic.  Based on this information, and a host of other related bits and pieces detailed below, it can be shown that Ayesha could have been at least 16-19 of age at the time of her marriage with Muhammad (pbuh).  The following is the detail of the analysis of these historical and Hadith accounts.
1. Several books of Hadith (Al-Bukhari and Al-Muslim, Abu Dawood, among others) and Islamic history (Tabari, among others) report that Ayesha was married to the Prophet at 6 but her marriage was not consummated until she was 9.  Although, this information is widely quoted and found in many Hadith and history books, it must be noted that most of this information has come from a single person, Hisham bin Urwah, who is the last narrator of this Hadith Isnaad (chain of narration) on the authority of his father.  Thus, this Hadith is primarily a single Hadith.  Some other narratives mention the same Hadith but their narration has been found weak and unacceptable. In general, a Hadith has more credibility if it is narrated by more people independently from diverse chains of narrators.  In this case, there is basically only one source.
2. Despite the abundance of information available during the 71 years that Hisham bin Urwah lived and taught in Medina, it is rather odd that that no one else—not even his famous pupil Malik ibn Anas---reported Ayesha’s age from Hisham in Medina.  Furthermore, all the narrators of this Hadith were Iraqis.  Hisham is reported to have moved to Iraq in his later years. An extensive list of biographical sketches of all narrators including these Iraqis is available in some books.
3. Yaqub ibn Shaibah is reported to have said, “narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq".  Malik ibn Anas (d. 795), a student of Hisham in fact discredited all narratives of Hisham that were reported through people of Iraq.

(Tehzibu'l-tehzib, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-Islami, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh), vol 11, pg 48 - 51).
4. It is reported that Hisham bin Urwah’s memory suffered in his later years to the extent that some of the traditions reported from Hisham bin Urwah could not be trusted for authenticity.
(Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, by Al-Zahbi , Arabic, a book on the life sketches of the narrators of the Hadith, Al-Maktabatu'l-athriyyah, Sheikhupura, Pakistan, Vol 4, pg 301).
5. Even though Ayesha is reported to have been born about eight years before Hijrah (around 614 A.D.), one can find another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) whereby Ayesha is reported to have said that she was a ‘young girl’ at the time of revelation of the 54th chapter of the Qur'an which came 9 years before Hijrah (around 612 A.D).  Thus, according to this tradition, Ayesha was a young girl (Jariyah—as she calls herself and not an infant in which case she would be sibyah).  Additionally, this narrative stands in direct contrast to the one reported on Ayesha’s age by Hisham bin Urwah.  This puts Ayesha’s age significantly higher than 9 as reported by Hisham bin Urwah—possibly 15 or even higher. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear
contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham
ibn Urwah. There is no compelling reason as to why this tradition should be considered less accurate vis-à-vis Hisham’s narrative).

(Sahih Bukhari, kitabu'l-tafsir, Arabic, Bab Qaulihi Bal al-sa`atu Maw`iduhum wa'l-sa`atu adha' wa amarr).
6. According to many narratives, Ayesha participated in the battles of Badr and Uhud.  No one older than 15 was allowed to accompany the Prophet’s army in the battle of Uhud.  This applied across the board to all participants, men and women alike. The battle of Uhud took place around the 2nd  Hijrah, a time line close to her marriage with the Prophet.  Obviously, she was at least older than 15 at that time.

7. A narrative regarding Ayesha's participation in the battle of `Uhud is given in Bukhari, (Kitabu'l-jihad wa'l-siyar, Arabic, Bab Ghazwi'l-nisa' wa qitalihinna ma`a'lrijal; that all boys under 15 were sent back is given in Bukhari, Kitabu'l-maghazi, Bab ghazwati'l-khandaq wa hiya'l-ahza'b, Arabic).
8. Most historians have consensus on the age of one of the oldest female companions of the Prophet, namely, Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha that was ten years older than Ayesha. It is also reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma died in 73 Hijrah when she was 100 years old. Clearly, if Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of Hijrah, Ayesha was 17 at the time of Hijrah and 19 at the time of consummation of her marriage with Muhammad.

(For Asma being 10 years older than Ayesha, see A`la'ma'l-nubala', Al-Zahabi, Vol 2, Pg 289, Arabic, Mu'assasatu'l-risalah, Beirut, 1992.  Ibn Kathir confirms this fact,  [Asma] was elder to her sister [Ayesha] by ten years" (Al-Bidayah wa'l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol 8, Pg 371, Arabic, Dar al-fikr al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933).  For Asma being 100 years old, see Al-Bidayah wa'l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol 8, Pg 372, Arabic, Dar al-fikr al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933).  Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani also has the same information:  "She [Asma (ra)] lived a hundred years and died in 73 or 74 AH." Taqribu'l-tehzib, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, Pg 654, Arabic, Bab fi'l-nisa', al-harfu'l-alif, Lucknow).
9. Tabari informs in his treatise on Islamic history that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the pre Islamic period.  The pre-Islamic period ended in 610 A.D, a fact that makes Ayesha to be at least 14 years of age at the time of her marriage around 613-624 A.D.
Tarikhu'l-umam wa'l-mamlu'k, Al-Tabari, Vol 4, Pg 50, Arabic, Dara'l-fikr, Beirut, 1979).
10. Ibn Hisham, the historian, reports that Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam quite some time before `Umar ibn al-Khattab which only means that Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam close to the time of first revelation (around 610 A.D). This means she must have been at least a young girl at that time.  Assuming she was barely 6 or 7 at that time this information puts the age of Ayesha at 20 or more at the time of her marriage with Muhammad (623-624 A.D.), (Al-Sirah al-Nabawiyyah, Ibn Hisham, vol 1, Pg 227 – 234 and 295, Arabic, Maktabah al-Riyadh al-hadithah, Al-Riyadh).
11. Tabari reports that before migrating to Habashah, Abu Bakr planned to hand over his daughter, Ayesha to Mut’am’s son to whom she was engaged.  But fearing persecution by the Quraish, Mut’am refused and his son divorced Ayesha.  The migration to Habashah happened 8 years before Hijra.  Obviously, at the time she was ready to take on responsibilities as a wife (possibly 9 or 10 years of age).  If she married Muhammad in the 2ndHijrah (623-624 A.D), she could not be less than 19 years of age (a secondary reference for this argument is: Tehqiq e umar e Siddiqah e Ka'inat, Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi, Urdu, Pg 38, Anjuman Uswa e hasanah, Karachi, Pakistan).
12. A famous Sunni imam, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, reports in His Musnad, that after the death of Khadijah, Khaulah came to the Prophet (pbuh) and advised him to marry again.  She had two propositions for the Prophet:  Either Muhammad could marry a virgin (bikr), or he could go for woman who had already been married (thayyib)". Khaulah named Ayesha for a virgin (bikr). It is common knowledge that the term bikr in the Arabic language refers to a well formed lady and not to a 9 year old, playful, immature lass.  If she were nine, the word used by Khaulah would have been jariyah and not bikr.
(Musnad, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Vol 6, Pg 210, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut).

13. Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani has reported that Fatimah, Muhammad’s daughter, was five years older than Ayesha and that Fatimah  was born when the Prophet was 35 years old. Thus, Ayesha, according to Ibn Hajar, was born when Muhammad was 40 and consummated her marriage when he was 54 or 55.  That makes Aysha at least 15-16 years of age.
(Al-isabah fi tamyizi'l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol 4, Pg 377, Arabic, Maktabatu'l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh,1978)
Finally, it must be pointed out that Ayesha’s age at the time of her marriage has never been an issue.  If it were, his enemies must have picked up on this issue as they did to him on some other issues. Also, the reader must note that none of these Hadith reports concerning Ayesha’s controversial age of marriage with the Prophet goes back to the Prophet himself.  In other words, it is not the Prophet himself who said Ayesha was 6 or 9.  These reports came from a single individual and the Iraqis reported from him when he grew old and his memory started failing.
In conclusion, this article is an attempt to prove that the books written 200-300 years after the death of Muhammad, while providing a good deal of historical information about him are not free from faulty, less than perfect and self-contradictory materials.  These should not be taken as the final word for a Muslim.  There is a Final Word for a Muslim and that is the Book of God, the Holy Qur’an—the book that defines the marriageable age for a man or woman when he or she attains soundness of judgment (Al-Qur’an 4:6). If Muhammad is a model for mankind, if he followed the Qur’an all his life, if Allah stands witness to his rock-solid character, there is no way that he could have taken a 6-9 year old, immature young, playful girl as a responsible wife.




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Post time 14-5-2014 12:21 AM | Show all posts
lavalove posted on 14-5-2014 12:16 AM
alang2 nak copy paste wa copy paste best punyer article...

Tercabar aji hang komen panjang2.

nanti lah thieo hadam.
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Post time 14-5-2014 12:29 AM | Show all posts
thieo posted on 14-5-2014 12:21 AM
Tercabar aji hang komen panjang2.

nanti lah thieo hadam.

wa tak main la komen pepanjang...

copy tampal je tu...secara halal..

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Post time 14-5-2014 03:01 AM | Show all posts
lavalove posted on 14-5-2014 12:29 AM
wa tak main la komen pepanjang...

copy tampal je tu...secara halal..

kau tak komen pjg tapi langkah mod panjangggg je cari kau....
mcm kau kata berlari- lari mid tinggalkan solat wajib nak buat kau jadi beku.....
bila posting lavaconcubine chilaka tu, tak pulak diusik....tau pulak yg tu menyamar jadi nick kau, pdhal bahasa babi oink...oink...yg kuar..

Apa masalah kau yg mod dendam kesumat dengan kau?....
kau bawak lari wife depa ke????.....
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Post time 14-5-2014 03:18 AM | Show all posts
Citer psl poligami jah pung...... mender lerr
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Post time 14-5-2014 06:16 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lavalove posted on 14-5-2014 12:16 AM
alang2 nak copy paste wa copy paste best punyer article...




Benda yg sama telah dibincangkan dlm board agama kalau tak silap within 3 years lepas.

Yup. Scope yg sama.
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Post time 14-5-2014 06:41 AM | Show all posts
lavalove posted on 14-5-2014 12:16 AM
alang2 nak copy paste wa copy paste best punyer article...
This loving and caring monogamous relationship continued for 25 years until her death.
This speaks volumes about this man’s piety and loyalty in spousal matters

sedangkan Nabi pun tunggu isteri pertama meninggal baru kawin lain ...


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Post time 14-5-2014 08:27 AM | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 14-5-2014 06:41 AM
sedangkan Nabi pun tunggu isteri pertama meninggal baru kawin lain ...

jenuh lah nak tunggu 1st wife mati dulu dik........
klu mcm tu, lelaki bujang yg ada intention berpoligami, pilih 1st wife yg tua- tua......yg gigi pun dah rompong, yg tengah nazak tu lg di galakkan.....
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Post time 14-5-2014 08:43 AM | Show all posts
jazaa posted on 14-5-2014 08:27 AM
jenuh lah nak tunggu 1st wife mati dulu dik........
klu mcm tu, lelaki bujang yg ada intention be ...

ahak! dpt pompuan umur panjang terus tak kawin2
layanlah bini tua kertu gigi rongak
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Post time 14-5-2014 08:48 AM | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 14-5-2014 06:41 AM
sedangkan Nabi pun tunggu isteri pertama meninggal baru kawin lain ...

yup..RAsulullah monogami 25 tahun..poligami 13 tahun je...tu pun ata sbb dakwah..dan aisyah sorang je anak dara..yg lain balu/janda...
ce tgk poligami org sekarang..berapa je yg jumpa kawin dgn janda/balu anak 7...
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Post time 14-5-2014 08:49 AM | Show all posts
Vellfire posted on 14-5-2014 08:43 AM
ahak! dpt pompuan umur panjang terus tak kawin2
layanlah bini tua kertu gigi rongak

bukan apa dik.....
skrg ada yg mcm nak buat  syarat pulak, selagi 1 st wife hidup, laki tak blh kawin lain sbb nabi dulu tak kawin pun masa 1 st wife ada.....
ramai yg bertanya kat kemuskilan agama.....betul ke mcm tu??....
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Post time 14-5-2014 08:53 AM | Show all posts
untuk mengatasi masalah bini tak bagi poligami atau prosedur yang menyusahkan, i suggest korang gi berjihad je.. kalau mati dapat 72 bidadari dan pemuda tampan.. kalau idup dapat lak tawanan perang.. win win situation.
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