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[Jenayah] Tragedi MH17 V4 : Kemungkinan MH17 ditembak jet pejuang Sukhoi?

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Post time 29-7-2014 11:02 AM | Show all posts
Data kotak hitam sahkan MH17 ditembak
28 Julai 2014
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MOSCOW – RUSIA. Data yang diperoleh daripada kotak hitam MH17 yang terhempas baru-baru ini menunjukkan kapal terbang itu telah ditembak jatuh sehingga menyebabkan berlakunya letupan besar.

Melalui laporan sebuah portal hari ini, kenyataan tersebut didakwa didedahkan oleh jurucakap Majlis Pertahanan dan Keselamatan Ukraine, Andriv Lysenko.

Bagaimanapun pihak berkuasa Eropah yang turut menganalisa data dan maklumat yang terdapat dalam kotak hitam terbabit masih belum membuat sebarang pendedahan setakat ini.

Pesawat MH17 yang membawa 298 penumpang dan anak kapal termasuk bayi telah disahkan ditembak jatuh pada 17 Julai lalu pada ketinggian 33,000 kaki di udara.

Nahas tersebut telah mengorbankan kesemua nyawa penumpang dan anak kapalnya.

Dalam pada itu, Malaysia kini sedang mengadakan usaha rundingan bagi menggesa Belanda untuk mempercepatkan proses mengecam dan bedah siasat ke atas mangsa bagi memastikan jenazah rakyat Malaysia dapat dibawa pulang secepat mungkin.

Data penerbangan dan perakam suara kokpit pesawat pesawat tersebut direka dan dipasarkan pada pertengahan tahun 1990-an dan ia mungkin akan menyukarkan pasukan penyiasat untuk memperoleh data jelas dan lengkap.
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Post time 29-7-2014 11:09 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 29-7-2014 09:01 AM
setuju ...
agak mengarut ..
tapi suka ja baca .. sebab nak tau camne dier rang nak jelaskan tent ...

Ada link tak..nk baca gak..he he
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Post time 29-7-2014 01:24 PM | Show all posts
cenkudu posted on 29-7-2014 09:45 AM
mereka2 ni suka ber@FanTasyCreaTioN  tp mmg 90% tak logik teori konspirasi tersebut. sbb mcm kata ta ...

haha abang .. kretip sunggguh
siap id kita jadi ayat

tapi tu la..
ada bideo yang susun2 bag tu sblom berlepas ..
whatsup dari salah seorang pramugari kat keluarga dia
update2 kat fb
tak kan la semua2 tu berkomplot ..

Selamat Hari Raya bang ..
maaf d pinta andai ada terkasar bahasa yang menyinggung perasaan selama berporum ni
Last edited by FanTasyCreaTioN on 29-7-2014 01:38 PM

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Post time 29-7-2014 01:40 PM | Show all posts
saladin780 posted on 29-7-2014 11:09 AM
Ada link tak..nk baca gak..he he

Selamat Hari Raya bang Saladin
maaf yer kalo ada ayat2 yang menyakiti hati

antara link2 tu

http://luar-negeri.kompasiana.com/2014/07/19/konspirasi-illuminati-di-sekitar-mh17--665108.html

https://www.facebook.com/notes/al-faedah/mh17-atau-mh370/555279401260724?comment_id=555843934537604&offset=0&total_comments=58

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Post time 29-7-2014 01:51 PM | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 29-7-2014 01:24 PM
haha abang .. kretip sunggguh
siap id kita jadi ayat

haha kebetulan id tu kena dengan ayat

selamat hari raya aidil fitri & maaf zahir batin juga @FanTasyCreaTioN especially ada terkasar tulis dalam forum


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Post time 29-7-2014 02:06 PM | Show all posts
cenkudu posted on 29-7-2014 01:51 PM
haha kebetulan id tu kena dengan ayat

selamat hari raya aidil fitri & maaf zahir batin ju ...

takat ni lom lagi ader kata2 / komen2 yang menyinggung perasaan

sambil dok update2 diri tentang mh17 ni..
dah beberapahari ketinggalan




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Post time 29-7-2014 02:10 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 29-7-2014 01:40 PM
Selamat Hari Raya bang Saladin
maaf yer kalo ada ayat2 yang menyakiti hati


Slamat hari raya jugak..trimas utk link2 nya
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Post time 29-7-2014 02:25 PM | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 29-7-2014 02:06 PM
takat ni lom lagi ader kata2 / komen2 yang menyinggung perasaan

sambil dok update2 diri tent ...

so setakat ni sape dalang paling kuat kemungkinannya Ukraine vs Rebel pro russia vs Russia??
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Post time 29-7-2014 02:32 PM | Show all posts
cenkudu posted on 29-7-2014 02:25 PM
so setakat ni sape dalang paling kuat kemungkinannya Ukraine vs Rebel pro russia vs Russia??

takat dari pembacaan
ikut akal logik..
kita lebih kepada Ukraine yang menjadi dalang ..
tapi mungkin bukan secara sengaja

mula2 tu tak ketara sangat ..
tapi selepas berita tersiar nya pro russia tu " d tuduh" cuba menyembunyi kan mayat..
terpikir gak sblom tersiar berita yang dier rang simpanan mayat tu kat dalam ketapi..
terpikir .. ni berita sensasi seluruh dunia tengah memerhati .. tak kan la sesenang tu nak seludup mayat2 tu
setakat 1- 10 mayat mungkin
ni beratus

semenjak tu .. pikiran lebih berat membuat pertuduhan sendiri ..



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Post time 29-7-2014 03:45 PM | Show all posts
aku sampai satu tahap nak tampar aje muka kwn2 aku yg bingai masih lg percaya teori MH17 : MH370..

dah la salah sorg pax tu pun mmg member kitorg/org yg kitorg kenal (mohd ali bin md salim), pun boleh lg diorg yg bingai ni nak percaya teori2 bodow ni.. arwah tu siap upload video dlm plane masa nak take off lg kat instagram, mmg bole tengok video tu kat insta member aku yg follow insta dia..

aku x bape kenal la ali ni, tp aku tau dan cam dia, sbb masa kat uia dia ni junior kwn2 aku dari maahad muor & skolah tun perak. lg satu sbb dia sama kuliyyah human sc.
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Post time 29-7-2014 04:21 PM | Show all posts
Sarawak Cabinet To Discuss Aid For Flight MH17 Tragedy Victims' Families


KUCHING, July 29 (Bernama) -- Sarawak is to discuss at a state cabinet meeting the form of aid to be given to the families of the victims of the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 tragedy.

Chief Minister Tan Sri Adenan Satem said the meeting would be held soon to discuss the form of the aid that he had stated in his Aidilfitri message.

"I will call a cabinet meeting soon to see what we can do for the families of the victims of the MH17 tragedy, especially those from Sarawak. I cannot give you the details now. We feel their loss," he told reporters at the Aidilfitri open house held at the Borneo Convention Centre Kuching, here.

Parti Rakyat Sarawak (PRS) president Tan Sri James Masing, who was at the event, said the people should also not forget the families of the victims of the MH370 tragedy.

"Let's also pray for the victims of MH370," said Masing, who is State Land Development Minister.

Flight MH370 dropped off radar on March 8 as it flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 227 passengers and 12 crew on board. The Boeing 777 aircraft has yet to be found, even after an exhaustive search in the southern Indian Ocean where it is believed to have gone down after veering off course.

Credit To :
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/ge/newsgeneral.php?id=1056841

Flight MH17 crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17 as it was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with 283 passengers and 15 crew on board. The Boeing 777 aircraft is believed to have been shot down over the troubled country.


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Post time 29-7-2014 04:41 PM | Show all posts
MH17 black boxes show crash caused by shrapnels
Data from the black boxes was decrypted in Britain

Published Monday, July 28, 2014

Black boxes recovered from downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in rebel-held east Ukraine show shrapnel from a rocket explosion caused the passenger jet to crash, a Ukrainian security official said Monday.

International investigators "indicated that data from flight recorders show that the reason for the destruction and crash of the plane was massive explosive decompression arising from multiple shrapnel perforations from a rocket explosion," said Andriy Lysenko, spokesman for Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council.

Data from the doomed airliner's black boxes was decrypted in Britain after being handed over to Malaysian officials by pro-Russian rebels controlling the crash site of MH17.

Investigators leading the probe in the Netherlands, which lost 193 citizens, refused to confirm the latest information from Kiev, saying that they were "waiting to get a more complete idea of what happened."

Kiev and its Western allies have accused insurgents of shooting down the plane, killing all 298 people on board.

In Moscow, the head of the Russian experts participating in the crash probe, criticised Lysenko for commenting publicly without the authorisation of the chief of the investigation as is required by international agreements.

Oleg Storchevoi, the deputy head of Russia's air regulator, was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying Ukraine has "violated the basic principles of cooperation in the investigation of air crashes."

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http://www.emirates247.com/news/mh17-black-boxes-show-crash-caused-by-shrapnels-2014-07-28-1.557850


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Post time 29-7-2014 04:47 PM | Show all posts
mmg ukraine x ikut procedure. patut chief investigator yg announce. dan biasanya mereka announce bila dapat maklumat lengkap bila siasatan terperinci dibuat. mereka kena relate jugak dengan wreckage supaya apa yg dianalyse dari kotak hitam tu ada supporting fact. bukan sekerat2 mcm ni. drama lg nampaknya
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Post time 29-7-2014 04:59 PM | Show all posts
Various Identification Procedures Of Mh17 Dead Bodies Cause Delay


Special Malay&#172;sian Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team (SMART) relocating the MH17 victim for further forensic investigation. Pic BERNAMA

KIEV (Ukraine), July 25 (Bernama) — The need for Netherlands’ authority to undergo various process to validate the identity of the dead bodies from the victims onboard the downed Malaysian airliner is cited as the reason for the delay of its repartriation before Aidilfitri (Eid ul-Fitr).

  Another reason is because the Malaysian investigation team in Kharkiv has found different human body parts, such as legs and arms, lying with the unidentified bodies in body bags.

  The Malaysian Police Disaster Victims Identification (DVI) commander, ACP Hussein Omar Khan told Bernama that due to the decaying condition of the bodies the Netherlands authority had to take DNA samples from the victims’ bones.

  “It is time consuming and the experts will also use the dental record and other methods to verify the victims’ identity.

  “These may take up two or three weeks to complete. So it is impossible the victims’ identification can be completed before Aidilfitri,” said Hussein, who is involved in the process of scanning and tagging of the MH17 victims’ bodies at Kharkiv and a member of the Malaysian special investigation team.

  The Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH17, was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it went down in Donetsk, eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border on Thursday.

The Boeing 777-200 aircraft was carrying 298 people – 283 passengers and 15 crew.

  Prime Minister Najib Razak announced in Kuala Lumpur on Thursday that the remains of Malaysian MH17 crash victims were unlikely to be brought back before Aidilfitri.

  It is believed that the plane was shot down but until today no one has claimed responsibility for that.

  Meanwhile, National Security Council (MKN) Principal Assistant Secretary Lt Col Mohd Sakri Hussain said there were some separated human body parts being put in together with other bodies in one body bag.

  “If the body is missing a leg or arm, the personnel who picked up the bodies had put another leg or hand to make the body as a whole.

  “So there is complication to verify which body parts belong to the right victims and this is the challenge that requires more time for Netherlands,” he said.

  Furthermore the number of the bodies were huge, said Mohd Sakri.

  A total of 282 bodies and 87 body parts had arrived in Kharkiv, about 500 km from Ukraine capital, Kiev on Monday.

  For the past three days, some of  the victim bodies had been scanned for any booby traps and tagged in Kiev before the bodies were flown to Netherlands for DVI before being released to the loved ones.

  The scanning and tagging process in Kharkiv are expected to finish this Friday.

  –BERNAMA



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Post time 29-7-2014 10:20 PM | Show all posts
avatar_aang posted on 29-7-2014 06:35 AM
itu fitrah yang Allah letak dalam hati manusia.
rasa takut tu pasti ada walau sedikit bile mana b ...


..tu cakap org2 kat kampung, aku cakap dalam konteks professionalisme & ethical tentera...

@otai_g



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Post time 29-7-2014 10:21 PM | Show all posts
sian org kampung dihina.
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Babai posted on 29-7-2014 06:51 AM
Sikit aku nak perbetulkan hang. Yang mamat melayu dalam gambar tu pakai ialah baju no 8, bukan baj ...


..ok tq, still kalau pakai full unipom tangan tak boley masuk poket, kan...

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Post time 29-7-2014 10:27 PM | Show all posts
HUHA posted on 29-7-2014 10:21 PM
sian org kampung dihina.


tak paham ke, atau senganja buat2...
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Post time 29-7-2014 10:30 PM | Show all posts
pyropura posted on 29-7-2014 10:27 PM
tak paham ke, atau senganja buat2...

sengaja buat buat
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Post time 29-7-2014 11:06 PM | Show all posts
Dutch police receive 150 MH17 crash images

Witnesses have uploaded 150 photos and videos to a Dutch police server set up to help piece together the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over east Ukraine, a spokeswoman says.

The police issued an online appeal last week for images of the crash site - before, during and after - to aid a reconstruction of events.

From the server opening last Friday evening to noon on Monday, 150 images were uploaded via portals in four different languages: Dutch, English, Russian and Ukrainian, spokeswoman Franki Klarenbeek said.

And more are coming in.

'We don't know yet where the images are from, but we do know they were uploaded via all four language portals,' said Klarenbeek.

The online appeal had been 'aimed specifically at people in the disaster zone', according to the website.

The plane with 298 people on board came down on July 17 in an area of east Ukraine where pro-Russian separatists are battling government forces.

The Netherlands, which is leading the crash probe and body identification, lost 193 citizens on the flight.

Washington alleges the flight was downed by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile fired by pro-Moscow militants.

On Monday, Kiev said data from the doomed plane's black boxes showed the crash was caused by shrapnel from a rocket explosion.

Russia has denied the Western accusations, and rebel commander Igor Strelkov has said his side did not have anything to do with the MH17 disaster.

Several investigations are under way to determine what caused the crash, who is to blame, and whether any prosecution will follow for what the UN has said may amount to a war crime.

- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/world/europe/2014/07/30/dutch-police-receive-150-mh17-crash-images.html#sthash.HEHFq0Jw.dpuf
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